It is official: Please update contact

Submitted by gwolf on Wed, 05/18/2005 - 10:47
I have been phasing out my gwolf.cx addresses over the last year in favor of gwolf.org - It is now official: gwolf.cx will die soon. Please update. I am gwolf@gwolf.org, my website is http://www.gwolf.org/
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mod_perl2 API madness

Submitted by gwolf on Thu, 05/12/2005 - 17:57
Yesterday was hellish. Apache might be the Free Software most notorious project. mod_perl is one of the best things that could happen both to the Perl and Apache communities. Apache2 is the largest Apache milestone, a major rewrite, and was declared golden almost three years ago. mod_perl, as it wraps the Apache C API and offers it to Perl, was expected to take some time to adapt to the new API and idiosincracy of this major version... Anyway, on to my life. I had some work to do on two systems I developed using mod_perl - the Comas one for Debconf and an internal project for the institute. Both stopped working on my development machine. Shit. Go to the logs - What do I find? [Wed May 11 12:04:03 2005] [error] [client 132.248.72.73] Can't locate object method "dir_config" via package "Apache2::RequestRec" at /usr/share/perl5/Apache/Reload.pm line 51 Ok, this is clearly a mod_perl2 thingy... Things like this one had bitten me before, when I had to comment (and later uncomment) Apache::Upload. Oh, of course, then again some months ago, when I migrated from Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0, when the nice mod_perl Apache2 migration wasn't really in sync with the reality... There have been a couple of episodes. After some stumbling, I came across the changelog. In my Sid system, it read:
(...) =item 1.999_22 - April 14, 2005 ******************** IMPORTANT ******************** this version of mod_perl is completely incompatible with prior versions of mod_perl, both 1.XX and 1.99_XX. Please read the below changes carefully. ***************************************************
Ok, that explains it... Although a big API change is not what I'd expect between version 1.999_21 and 1.999_22, right? The most upsetting thing is that my main development box is running Sid - And the servers I deploy on run Sarge... So I guess this means I'll have to set up a chroot environment so I can develop on my own workstation :-/ Ok, do some changes. It works on my Sarge machine, frozen at 1.999.21-1 - Everything looks fine. Send the module over to the Debconf server. Notify Apache of the changes. Reload, and... SHIT. Internal server error. I am not the machine's admin - Spend a couple of hours trying to locate the good folks in Finland, asking them to give me read access to the Apache logs. Meanwhile, try to blindly fix the problem. Of course, once I saw the log, it was obvious I couldn't have found it by myself:
(...) Can't locate object method "remote_ip" via package "Apache::Connection" at /home/gwolf/cvs/comas/perl/Apache2/Comas.pm line 279
WTF?! Now, both machines are running Sarge, but Murphy couldn't just forgive me - At my machine I am running 1.999.21-1, but at Debconf's server we have 1.999.20-1 - And I couldn't get remote_ip to work. And no change regarding it is documented. Ok, fortunately I did not _really_ depend on it save for a feature I had just implemented, and was able to work around it... Anyway, it was a lost day, due to unexpected, practically not documented API changes, in what really seemed like a very minor update. For ${THAT}'s sake, a version bump of 0.000.01 for a completely incompatible version?!
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...So there is a God?

Submitted by gwolf on Mon, 05/09/2005 - 14:31
That'd be the most plausible option... I could not explain it otherwise. There seems to be justice in this world. About two weeks ago, I broke my piggy-bank and, in one of the purest and most selfless acts I have ever had, bought an iMac for Nadezhda. She is, of course, delighted - and I'd have considered it as enough payment. This weekend, I got my father's birthday present - Well, he's not in Mexico right now, but he left me clear indications to get it: A very nice Sony Cyber-shot DSC-S80 camera. Yup guys, that means I will not have to beg to copy your pictures anymore ;-) But, as if that were not enough, at work I also got new toys: A gorgeous Dell PowerEdge 2800. 2 Xeon CPUs at 3.2GHz, 2GB RAM, 4x70GB SCSI HD (hardware RAID 5, of course). Oh, by the way, it is a server system, but it came with a beautiful 17" flat panel - which will come straight to my desk ;-) Ok... so I must get moving, giving something back to the world, in order to ensure this streak of the world giving something to me does not come to an abrupt halt ;-)
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Bursts of joy, bursts of sorrow

Submitted by gwolf on Sat, 05/07/2005 - 11:33
Ok, so the word is out: Telmex is upgrading the DSL lines! This would mean I am about to get 1Mbps instead of the current 512Kbps I get at home - But it means I'll save some money, as I will downgrade to the new entry-level 512K. I don't need more at home. Ok, this should make me quite happy - Right now, it is making me miserable. I am in the middle of a large download, and Telmex is playing with the circuits... So I get a nice 52KBps burst that lasts for a minute or two, then it stalls completely. Ok, interrupt wget and launch it again, now it is at 102KBps - Good! Yes, but after a minute or so it breaks again... Then I get only 27KBps... Well, up to now, I have downloaded 100MB. This is quite annoying, I cannot just stand up and make it do its job... I could make a simple script checking whether the file has increased in size in the last 10 seconds... If it continues to be this flaky, I'll do it :-/
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On-topicness

Submitted by gwolf on Tue, 05/03/2005 - 20:43
Up until today, I had never thought we had to stay on topic in Planet Debian. All those messages regarding Ian's postings made me quite sour - and quite surprised. Scott, have you ever received a complaint regarding my Mexican political rantings? I doubt so. No, this is not a message against anyone... But, seriously, what could have made 80 people get pissed at Progeny's stuff given we all share what we think as important in here? Isn't Progeny important for many DDs? And even if it wasn't, does it harm anybody to see it there?
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Fr0zen! / Where were you by Woody time?

Submitted by gwolf on Tue, 05/03/2005 - 20:16
Wow... Like most people, upon reading the last Andi's announcement last week, I decided to go get my bugs - And, yes, I did nice progress... So it was a bit frustrating on one hand to find out today that Sarge is finally frozen. Yes, I know we are not supposed to wait until the last minute - But hey, face it, it is a great motivation! ;-) (and, yes, I will contact debian-release regarding a set of changes I did today that closed five bugs, even though non-critical). Now, this blog is syndicated at my local community as well - For you guys, what does this freeze mean? No, we have not released Sarge yet. However, we are in a very special period, where the final bugs are squished, aiming to release Sarge in a month. Yes, we are notorious for skipping deadlines, but this time it does look like it. And, believe it or not, we are really into finding a way to get Etch out in less time. Anyway... The freeze by itself deserves a celebration. And very, very soon (by the Debian time standards) we will have a major celebration coming up. I just got an inspiration - I will try to start a... New meme - New meme - New meme Where were you when Woody was released? I remember reading the announcement at a lent terminal, at UNAM's Computer Security Department. We still had the (now defunct) Free Software Area next door, and I was a common fixture over there, even if I worked at the Iztacala campus, over 1hr away. Funny, today I was there again, after not visiting for many months, presenting an idea for an Admin-UNAM meeting.
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The mac is live!

Submitted by gwolf on Sat, 04/30/2005 - 01:18
I am finally getting paid my complete salary at the University - That is no small deal, as UNAM can often take many months to get the checks flowing. In my case, I was formally hired in January, got the first check for the basic salary on February 25 (which I promptly used to get out of debts, of course). Then, on March 25 I got my first full check - Of course, retroactive to January. Of course, this deserved a celebration, so I kept it secret to be able to make it a bit better. I got also the payment for a work I had finished in February as the sysadmin for a private company. So, without her suspecting a thing, ten days ago I arrived home with a beautiful, shiny new iMac G5 for Nadezhda. She has really had a bad time with our PC, which is not precisely old (Athlon/1.1), but for a strange reason never worked properly with a recent Windows version. She was still stuck with 98. Yes, before you begin ranting on me: Only she knows how much I have pestered her with switching to Free Software alternatives, from the OS down to the smallest app - But anyway, I am her husband, and I understand my role in nature is to provide for her happiness ;-) She mainly uses the computer for designing whatever she has to print. She had been longing for a Mac for a very long time. I am happy as well, as at least she now uses an almost-almost-free OS (even if it does not hurt :) ). We waited a long time, as she wouldn't open such a beautiful machine in a mess of a desk - Today she finally accepted to set the machine up. She is ecstatic. Of course, me too. I am finally fulfulling my evolutionary male role. :-D Cosa: Gozala! :-***
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A whole country on one street

Submitted by gwolf on Mon, 04/25/2005 - 11:57
Yesterday I attended one of the largest (if not the largest at all) political demonstrations in Mexico's history. As I have previously mentioned in my blog, the federal government wants to get rid of the strongest presidential candidate for the 2006 elections - And, although we have gone a long way from the 1970s politics, with a strong and authoritarian one-party system, the temptation to fall back to it (or to a very similar emulation of it) is too strong. López Obrador was impeached on April 7. Now, there is no certain opinion on whether, besides the juridical immunity, he lost his governorship on our city - Most jurists point out that he will only lose his authority once a judge declares there is a penal process against him. Right now, around 9 million people (the inhabitants of Distrito Federal, roughly one third of the inhabitants of Mexico City) don't have a local government. Nadezhda and I spent the previous night together with Irma and Susana, printing around 70 T-shirts stating We are building a democracy, please excuse the inconvenience. We finished at about 5:30AM, finally went to sleep at 6:00, and one hour later we woke up to get everything ready and in place. We then left, together with my father, to meet with our group of friends at the National Auditorium. I do consider myself as a supporter of López Obrador. I do want to see him as our next president. Yes, he has done some very wrong things, but overall he is a much cleaner candidate than most other politicians. However, we walked together with many people who were not in favour of López Obrador - People who just wanted our political rights to be respected. I was surprised at my father being so enthusiast about this demonstration, as he has been completely apolitical (out of lack of trust in the system - he only got his voting card two years ago as it is right now the only universally accepted ID document we Mexicans have, and has not voted in over 30 years). I was also surprised at walking next to my friend [friend]negrabarba[/friend], a strong critic of anything political. update: I just read even my right-winged friend Pop was there. If you talk Spanish, take a look at this entry in Cofradia. How many people were we? Nobody will ever know... This was, yes, something huge - Even the most right-wing media (such as Monitor) acknowledge we were over 600,000. In my favorite newspaper (and, no wonder, a newspaper often seen as the left-wing official divulgation media) says we were 1,200,000 people demonstrating against this abuse of authority. This number is also held by El Universal, which also compares the number to the population of the state of Zacatecas or to Mauritania. I laughed at Crónica's coverage, stating in whatever way they could that this was not that impressive - They just compared a picture of this demonstration to a picture of last june's demonstration against insecurity, widely perceived as a right-wing demonstration - I don't understand what they tried to show. Both were huge, and we cannot really compare them... But I know of many people who attended both, in the end both basically demand our rights as citizens. I do remember exhaustive media coverage back then, compared to basically none this time (the attention was all directed to the new Pope's first mass, my family says only ocassional shots of the demonstration were aired). Whatever, let's say we were 900,000, a middle point... I do have some numbers to share (you can take a look at the Reforma map to locate the points I mention, starting from the extreme left (Auditorio Nacional) - I doubt the map is on scale, but it will give you a rough idea), as we were at the very end of the group: We started at the National Auditorium, a long way behind the supposed meeting point (the Anthropology Museum). By the time we started moving, the head of the group was already at Zócalo (as we heard via the security personnel's radios). Shortly before we reached the Monumento a los Niños Héroes, the speeches began, indicating the Zócalo was basically full. We kept slowly moving. López Obrador's speech finished when we were passing by Ángel de la Independencia. That means, at least five kilometers packed with people. We kept walking until we got to Av. Juárez, and went back home to rest. So, in the end, one out of every 25 inhabitants of this city took part in this demonstration. It was not, as it was planned, a silent demonstration - of course, that'd be impossible being it that large. But anyway, if one million people with their feet aching cannot make our federal government rethink its virtual coup, we will keep moving, working for this country to move forward, to get out of the dark ages in which it still lives. Update thanks to Natorro: Around the world: Toulouse, Berlin, New York, Sydney, London, San Francisco, Brazil, Barcelona. ¿Anybody else? update2: Visit Mauricio José Schwarz's blog.
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What is peje?

Submitted by gwolf on Wed, 04/20/2005 - 11:38
Warning: This will make so little sense for most of you non-Mexicans that I'll post in Spanish. Me comentaba mi esposa que se asomó al diccionario de la RAE para averiguar qué significa el apelativo que le dan -aparentemente en tono despectivo- al Jefe de Gobierno del DF, el Peje. Sí, yo sé que el apelativo viene del pejelagarto, pez de su natal Tabasco. Sin embargo, el Diccionario de la RAE nos indica el significado de peje:
peje. (Del lat. piscis). 1. m. pez (vertebrado acuático). 2. m. Hombre astuto, sagaz e industrioso.
...Eso explica algunas cosas, para bien o para mal :)
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Bureaucracy

Submitted by gwolf on Mon, 04/18/2005 - 14:10
So today is paperwork day. 9:00 AM I get to the institute, ready to fix some bugs I have been thinking about 9:20 AM As I am halfway through my (first) morning coffee, the Academic Secretary calls me - I am invited to a seminar on a specific International Relations Negotiations Toolkit (??!!) - I talk her out of sending me there, as it falls completely outside my scope. I will, of course, talk with the organizers to find out about its technical requirements, licensing, etc. 9:35 AM Ok, I'm down here... Lets go ask what has happened to my request regarding the travel to Debconf5 - To the Director's office. His secretary kindly tells me I should have directed the request I handed him (exactly one month ago) to him and to the Internal Council. 9:50 AM Back to my office. Read some mail, breathe deeply. 10:30 AM Go to my boss to talk about the subject, to ask him for his opinion on how should I manage requests to go to conferences (as I have right now on my desk invitations to go to three conferences and am waiting for two more). He tells me everything (even a 1-day pop at a neighbouring town) needs to be approved by the Internal Council. Of course, if something is important for me to attend, I should not just ask for the approval, but include a complete justification for it _before_ it is requested from me. 10:50 AM Find the request you sent to the Director. Modify the date, the recipients (it should be addressed to the Director, the Internal Council and my boss, and I should print an extra copy for my record), and some details in the text. Find the invitation (thanks, Aschwin!), get four copies of it. 11:30 AM I start writing my justification - It covers basically:
  • What is Debian
  • My role inside Debian
  • Debconf as an academico conference
  • Debian's relevance to the Institute
12:15 PM Go print the four copies. Staple them. Sign them. Give one to the boss, he says it looks OK. Great! Go to the Director's office... Whoops! Rocío tells me I should not ask for permission and air travel expenses. I should ask for an licencia académica con goce de sueldo (roughly: An academic paid leave), quoting the Academic Personnel Statute. She does not remember which article from the Statute I should quote, so she sends me over to one of the areas of the Academic Secretary. 12:35 PM ...The person at that area tells me I need to have two years working in the University to get this paid leave.
- But I have worked before at the University, for four years, only at another campus!
- Well, yes, but you were not a purely academic worker, you had an administrative position, and I think that does not count
- Ok, what can I do? Even if I have to ask for an unpaid leave, this conference is quite important for me!
- Ok, I'll check the legislation and will come back to you by tomorrow 13:00 PM Back at my office. Angry, hoping to be somehow lucky, hoping for the best... Looking at my invitations to Poza Rica, Bogotá, hoping to have something soon related to Chile, Puebla... [friend]Amnesiac[/friend] insists on me attending Puerto Vallarta, which I really want to... But I am frustrated by this. I have worked at UNAM, yes. I knew this University is too large for its own good, and that bureaucracy rules here. It is, however, by far the best University in my country, and the only place I really want to work in... But losing a full fscking day just to have the real fear of bureaucracy standing between me and my academic work just is a fscking PITA :-( Anyway... In the worst possible scenario, I will pay for my own air ticket, and will take a couple of days off on an unpaid leave - But I _will_ see your ugly faces at Debconf5. And no matter what, I _will_ host you in .mx for Debconf6. update: I think I have to write a thank you note here... Thanks to the Almighty Jergas and the great break from bureaucracy he gave me while working at UPN. Some things are better here in the productive and strictly regulated Real World(tm), but the rules at La Peda were much simpler, and so was life itself.
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Congratulations / on giving FS talks to a non-technical audience

Submitted by gwolf on Tue, 04/12/2005 - 10:00
Branden: Congratulations! :-D We were all waiting for the day you finally took over - Now enhanced with an official Cabal! For the non-Debian guys reading my blog, it can be interesting to take a look at the Condorcet voting system.
...Interesting to know that joeyh is exactly 16 days older than me. Congratulations as well :)
In ~1hr I will be giving a talk - its title can be roughly translated as Free Software: An alternate model for knowledge production. Now, why am I excited about this? I have grown quite used to giving this kind of talks, explaining what Free Software is and how its development works, in front of technical or quasi-technical audiences. This time it is very different: As I work at the UNAM Economical Research Institute, I am giving this talk to economists. I hope I can find someone interested in working this more thoroughly with me, to have a formal economical analysis of our way of working. At the very least, I hope not to be laughed at - my first sheet reads:
What is Free Software?
  • A social movement that wants to correct a historic aberration
  • Thousands of volunteers breaking every economic prediction
  • A new knowledge production model
  • A fair scheme of intelectual property licensing
...Lets see how it works ;-)
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Mexican politics - fraud before the elections coming up

Submitted by gwolf on Tue, 04/05/2005 - 11:41
This is still not a fact... But it will soon be. We were so proud on July 2000 as we had finally beaten the eternal PRI and its perfect dictatorship. The hope, though, didn't last long. Our shiny new president made the most hilarious bunch of promises about what would happen in the Government of the Change - And as soon as he assumed the power (December 1, 2000), he started breaking them one after another. I remember particularly talking with a good friend of mine who went to study for six months in Spain. It was March 2001. I was telling him of the stupidity of the new government, when the Zapatista representatives started a march through various states until reaching the country's capital. My friend asked me how stupid could the Zapatistas be, by defying Mexico's most popular person - Well, my friend did not feel this as he was away, but we had only seen three months of his rule, but his approval rate had descended over 20%. The Zapatista movement has been waiting on the government to act, to honor his word, since the last official cease-fire (1995, IIRC). The government (quoting ex-president Salinas) does not see them, does not hear them. Well, this shiny new president Fox promised that he'd solve the Zapatista conflict in 15 minutes - He did nothing. He did not talk to them, he did not listen to them... But he says that Chiapas is now again peaceful and prosper. Of course it is, but thanks to the EZLN, which is not your everyday killing and kidnapping guerrilla, but a real national reivindication movement. ...But I will not talk more about the EZLN, as they are not the reason for me being angry. Fox's government has showed us over four years of ineptitude, of broken promises, of going back to the corruption and power abuse levels of the Echeverría-López Portillo docena trágica, the dirtiest 12 years of our country's politics (1970-1982) and the beginning of the continuous crisis we have faced since. Back in the day, the elections were seen as a simple joke. PRI politicians knew they could get whoever they wanted to power, they could remove anybody who fell from their grace, and did so with complete impunity. This changed radically in 1988, when the Frente Democrático Nacional (National Democratic Front) led by ex-PRI-member Cuauhtemoc Cárdenas challenged the most obvious fraud we had ever seen. After 1988, we had 12 years of slow but steady steps towards democracy - And we all thought that in 2000, when for the first time in over 70 years the PRI became opposition, we were already a democratic country. Our new government has, though, reinforced the almighty figure of the President, and has re-adopted the fraudulent techniques of the past, reaching a new level. By far, both Cárdenas and Mexico City's major, Andrés Manuel López Obrador are not my favourite people to run the country. They both (as many other important people in their party) were very prominent figures in the PRI until the mid-1980s. They display many sick attitudes that I do not want to see in a president - But then again, every single politician in this country seems, as we say, to have been cut using the same mold. Since early 2001, when López Obrador started appearing ahead in basically every popularity poll, all sorts of discredit has been tried against him. But, once the holders of the power found they could not undermine his popularity, things started becoming dirtier: As this guy will be tough to beat in the elections, it's much better not to allow them to run for president in 2006. A whole mess has been created around the very vague issue of Predio El Encino. It has been shown that the judge's resolution has been honored. It has been shown that the limits of El Encino are not clear - they are not even important!. However, this week we will witness the desafuero (removal of the privileges given by law to an elected authority) that PRI+PAN have seeked for long months. I do hate the victim personality that López Obrador has built thanks to this, I hate the way he has been showing himself as the savior of legality, I hate to see he might be no better than anybody else... But I cannot stand still while the rulers once again remove a legitimate candidate from their way for something that irrelevant, while the real lawbreakers (the first examples that come to my mind are Morelos' governor Sergio Estrada Cajigal has proven links to drug dealers and his state's congress has requested his removal from office, or the tens of PRI leaders involved in the Pemexgate affair. It seems we are stuck in our nice little banana republic. It seems we still have to fight to get back to the point we were at a couple of years ago. NO AL GOBIERNO FASCISTA NO AL DESAFUERO NO A LA CANALLADA
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New element found!

Submitted by gwolf on Wed, 03/30/2005 - 20:04
I tipically oppose reposting this kind of stuff... Today I won't ;-) The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered by investigators at a major U.S. research university. The element, tentatively named Administratium, has no protons or electrons and thus has an atomic number of 0. However, it does have 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons, and 111 assistant vice neutrons. This gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons. Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than one second. Administratium has a normal half-life of approximately three years, at which time it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons, and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic mass actually increases after each reorganization. Research at other laboratories indicates that Administratium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations, and universities. If can usually be found in the newest, best appointed, and best maintained buildings. Scientists point out that Administratium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Administratium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising.
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At least it is not slow anymore...

Submitted by gwolf on Wed, 03/30/2005 - 15:36
Yesterday there was an electrical problem in the area where I live - We had between 40 and 60V for around four hours (Mexico's electricity is nominally supplied at 127V). I got home about halfway through this and, of course, switched everything down. We went out, and came back home around 11PM. It seemed everything was normal again, so I turned on my server - yes, the old P120 laptop. This morning, Nadezhda told me she couldn't see the network. It turns yesterday night out I turned on the laptop, but didn't turn on the regulator, and the battery died. Ok, turn on the damn regulator... And nothing. :-/ Of course, a regulator can be of great help in case of power fluctuation - But yesterday's episode was way over what my little and cheap regulator could handle. It seems my trusty laptop's power supply just went to the electrical heaven. Well... After switching the hard disk to my main laptop and going back to a stock kernel, we have network access at home. Not only that, my blog is finally usable (it is normal to wait over one minute for it to load with my old P120 - It seems that Apache/PHP/[term]jaws[/term] and MySQL are too big to fit together in RAM). But I don't have a laptop for myself... And I don't want to use a regular (big, noisy, high power consumption, no UPS) machine as a server. I must thank [friend]Alex[/friend] - He offered to give me his old PIII/500 laptop. Yes, I know that machine is in a proverbial bad shape as a laptop... But I am confident it will be a much better server than the old one. Anyway, lets see how this evolves by tomorrow :) [friend]vicm3[/friend] says that it is usual to have ~80V in Iztapalapa... Say... How do you manage to have your server at home without killing it? Even with a good, sturdy UPS, doesn't your UPS die too quickly?
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Not a finn / mother back in Sweden / Religion

Submitted by gwolf on Wed, 03/23/2005 - 13:48
Antti-Juhani, Martin-Éric: Just to see how I fared, I took the Finnish Test. I have never been to Finland, my only direct references about it are that I know some people living there and that my mother says that you talk like ewoks... Anyway, I'll find out in July ;-) But anyway:
Suomalainen
Congratulations! You scored 86%!
You are a true Finn. Or an extremely good guesser. Or very lucky. Going to sauna naked with strangers is nothing to you, you happily even roll in the snow. Long winters are good for developing that depression and drinking. Your probable cause of death is suicide or alcohol.
Not bad, huh? :)
Yesterday night we took my mother to the airport. After one month visiting us in Mexico, she's heading back to Sweden, where she lives since mid-2003. It was quite nice to have her home. And... Well, I will see her again relatively soon, after Debconf in July... But it was nice to have her around at home.
Ok, so I am taking quizzes... Shoot me. Here I go with yet another one:
You scored as atheism. You are... an atheist, though you probably already knew this. Also, you probably have several people praying daily for your soul. Instead of simply being "nonreligious," atheists strongly believe in the lack of existence of a higher being, or God. atheism - 96% agnosticism - 83% Satanism - 75% Buddhism - 67% Paganism - 67% Islam - 54% Judaism - 25% Christianity - 21% Hinduism - 13% Which religion is the right one for you? (new version)
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...I mostly agree... But being more a Satanist than a Buddhist? And being twice as Islamic than Jewish? Well, that does amaze me :) ...Yes, yes, I'll go back to work right away.
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